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~tamingmods (calypso)

Date: 2009-06-07 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippitgood.livejournal.com
Hey,

I completely fell asleep before I remembered to post to the comm but it's up in my journal.

Was going to post it to the comm when I randomly woke up just now.

Does it still count?
Edited Date: 2009-06-07 11:46 am (UTC)
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Date: 2009-06-07 12:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zippitgood.livejournal.com
Thanks for the quick reply.

Date: 2009-06-08 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catw00man.livejournal.com
I have to say...I've heard about what was decided here and I have to admit...I'm a little bothered by it.

As you know I've been posting here for over two years and in that time I've seen allowances made for people messing up a posting link or posting in their journal and not here more than once. To be honest, it's even happened to me. The post was made, and on time, but not here. This is making me feel like I should turn my banners in as well because I don't want things to be "unfair." What is the critereon? Why is it that sometimes things are allowed and sometimes they aren't? I just hate to see good writers discouraged when they did the work and ended up having technical issues ending runs.

Feel free to screen this post if you don't think this is something that should be discussed openly. I just felt we should all know how and when the exceptions will be made. What are the critereon for the "reviews?" Does it depend on how long you've been around or how long your run is? I just know this exact situation has happened before and people were allowed to keep their runs.

Thanks for you time and consideration.

Date: 2009-06-08 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lit-gal.livejournal.com
I'm not in on the debate because I'm an honorary "grandmother" mod around here, and not a real one, but have the mods made a decision for us to discuss?

Date: 2009-06-08 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catw00man.livejournal.com
Hey there hun.

Yeah, she told me it was decided that her run had ended. My whole reason for posting was because I wanted to understand how this decision was made. I'm really not trying to be a trouble maker, but if there is a "review" process I just wanted to know how it worked. I know I was given leeway once when I had a similar posting error with semagic and I don't feel right accepting that without inquiring here. I know she's worked long and hard to keep her run going and I even saw the post in her journal. That's why I was surprised to even see these comments.

But regardless of all that I just wanted to know how the mod's review process worked in cases like this.

Date: 2009-06-08 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] authoressnebula.livejournal.com
Actually, we didn't post anything publicly as a decision, which I believe is what [livejournal.com profile] lit_gal was discussing.

Everyone is given one "grace" in which someone does not post to the comm but has obviously posted somewhere else. In this case, this would've been her second grace. Other people have received a grace if they have not posted to the comm but somewhere else. Other runs have been ended because of their not posting to the comm after having received one grace. No one has been given an exception on this rule; in fact, we created this rule as an exception the first time someone posted somewhere else and not here. We recognize that sometimes, life happens. We are not singling anyone out. As in your case, you received a grace. It was your first and only.

The rules are, however, that one has to post to the comm itself. We understand that there are things that keep people from posting on time. However, the rules are there for a reason.

Also, we appreciate your being a friend to [livejournal.com profile] zippitgood. However, [livejournal.com profile] zippitgood accepted what has happened with grace; if she had had an issue with it, she should've contacted us privately herself. This should not have been something for you to raise as an issue. It did not involve you.

As your mods, we want to see everyone succeed and hit major climbs of weeks. We understand that she's worked hard; everyone in this comm has worked hard, too. But the rules still stand. If we bent them, there wouldn't be a point to having them.

I'm sorry that you were bothered by the decision. As a mod, I hate when runs end. However, if I were to not post to the comm after having already had a grace, my run would also end. There is no favoritism here. If you feel that any of your questions have not been answered, please click here (http://community.livejournal.com/tamingthemuse/668164.html) to contact the mods.

~Tamingmod (Nebula)

Date: 2009-06-08 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catw00man.livejournal.com
As I stated above I asked this because *I* wanted to know and felt it should be something the entire comm was aware of. This is the first time I've heard of a one strike rule being spelled out and now I'm VERY glad I asked this here for myself and for others who I'm sure didn't know either. I didn't know I used my only "grace" as this was never told to me.

Also [livejournal.com profile] zippitgood had NO problem with what happened to her and it bothers me that you would infer that she did because I wanted a clarification on rules. I posted because I wanted an answer and didn't not "check with her first." I just knew I'd seen this exact rule bent before and I just wanted to know how things worked.

Regardless of what you think I'm not trying to be a hardass. As you know I run 3 writing comms of my own and when someone has a question and we have to make a ruling we have let everyone know so there was no question about people being fair. I'm sorry you apparently would have rather I did this all in private since it "didn't involve me." But then how could others benefit by knowing the rules about "graces" and such?

Thank you for explaining things to me and I'll keep in mind that I have had my one strike.

~Cat
Edited Date: 2009-06-08 04:41 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-08 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] authoressnebula.livejournal.com
We have not made this "rule" public for a reason: it's an exception to the original rules when accidents and mistakes do occur. We don't wish to encourage everyone to not post to the comm on account of having a "grace". This rule is an exception to the other rules, and is dealt with on a case by case basis. We did not define this rule until recently, which was why we did not explain it to you. We're dealing with things as they come, which you as a mod must surely appreciate yourself.

I did not infer in any way that she had a problem; I only stated as a what-if scenario that if she HAD had a problem with the ruling, she should've been the one to take it up with us, and not you. This decision was between the mods and her. This entire situation was between the mods and her. You have nothing to do with it.

This wasn't a matter of keeping a rule "secret" and "hidden" from the rest of the comm, as you seem to believe it is. We apply it when it needs to be applied, but we don't want to make this public because we don't want to encourage people, as I stated above, to not post to the comm on account of the one saving grace.

The main rule to follow is to post to the comm. That is the one rule that must always be adhered to. This smaller rule, the one I mentioned that has been recently created, is when life happens. We understood that, took that into consideration, and created this exception. It is ONLY for the exceptions, not for everyday or every week use.

I sincerely hope that this clears up any and all further questions on the matter, and that you as a member of this comm do not feel slighted. As a mod yourself, I'm sure you understand that we learn as we go when new scenarios arise. This was one such case. All of the mods, however, do discuss things together in order to be fair to all the members; the members here deserve nothing less than that.

~Tamingmod (Nebula)

Date: 2009-06-08 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catw00man.livejournal.com
As I stated above, I was only looking for an explanation of how the "reviews" were handled as it has affected me in the past. That is why I felt I had a right to inquire. I'm sorry if this seems to have been taken as being out of line.

As a mod I've always encouraged members to ask questions if they didn't understand how things were done as we run several different challenges as well. I apologize since it seems my questions were not welcome since it didn't directly "involve" me. I was just concerned that it could involve me or others in the future and wanted to be clear on how things worked.

Sorry for the disruption.

~Cat

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